This chart was given to me about 25 years ago by my aunt. She had received it from Grandma. Not sure who gave the chart to my grandma. Several people have asked me if I had ever seen the chart or knew of it's whereabouts, so I though I would post it.
Someone went to a lot of work to make it. I think it was originally made to show the relationships of the John and Lizzie (Morris) Cotter Family. On the chart, John and Lizzie are the two branches that merge together at the top
The surnames contained in the chart are: Copelin, Moser, Gray, Morris, Cotter, Whizenant, Box, Leffel.
The chart is quite large -- 24x36. I scanned the chart full-sized and have a PDF which can be found on Ancestry.com or FamilySearch.org. It can be found attached to the main people on the tree -- John and Lizzie (Morris) Cotter and their close family. You can download it from those sites or email me so I can send it to you.
I'll add the pdf to this post when I figure out how to.:)
John Edgar Cotter was my mother's cousin. John, the son of John Cotter and Susan Leffel, was born in 1904 in Chichasha, Oklahoma. He married Lizzie Ellen Morris on 20 November 1927 in Chickasha. Lizzie was the daughter of Joseph L Morris and Sarah E Copelin and was born in 1909 in Oklahoma. They were the parents of eight children. John and Lizzie are both buried in the Gruver Cemetery in Gruver, Texas.
Friday, April 14, 2017
Thursday, April 13, 2017
Lillie Hatfield Smith
Lillie
Lillian Victoria Hatfield Smith was the older sister to my great-grandmother, Minnie Pearl Hatfield Wilson. During the last few years of her life, Lillie lived with her sister, Pearl, in Pearl's small house in Cortez, Colorado. I would often walk with my Grandma Maymie from her house across town to visit with her mother Pearl and her Aunt Lillie. I remember that Lillie was taller than my great-grandmother. Lillie was always nice, and she must have worn a floral perfume because she smelled like flowers.
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| Ray and Lillie Smith |
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| Wedding Photo for Lillie and Ray |
Lillie's Baby
By 1910, the Smith's had moved to Sidney, Nebraska. Three years later, their son Ray Douglas Smith was born in Sidney on Thursday, 4 Sep 1913, at 6 o’clock pm. The only record that I have been able to find for Lillie's son is a bible record and a notation inside a photo album. ![]() |
| Ray Douglas Smith - 4 months |
It is not known how long little Ray lived, but there are no photos of
him except for the two baby pictures shown here. I have been unsuccessful in
finding a record of his death or where he was buried. But, I do
remember Lillie showing me these pictures of her son. At the time it made me sad to
think she lost her little baby boy - maybe because she was sad when she told me
about him. I'm not sure why Lillie did not make a record his death.
Perhaps, she could not bring herself to think about it.
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| Lillie and little Ray |
In 1918, when Ray registered for the WWI draft, he and Lillie were living in Malta, Phillips
County, Montana. Ray stated
that his occupation was in Real Estate and that his next of kin was his wife, Mrs. Lillie
V. Smith. Ray was 39 years old and his
physical description was tall, stout build, blue eyes, and dark hair.
Move to Florida
The Smith family cannot not be found in the 1920 census, so it
is not known where Ray and Lillie were living at that time. By 1929, Ray and Lillie were listed in the city directory of
Miami, Florida. In the 1930 census, Ray
and Lillie were living in Hialeah, Dade County, Florida. Lillie gave her occupation as a dress maker
in dress factory. In the photo below,
Lillie is seated at the sewing machine in the back (3rd from left). Not sure if this is part of the dress factory
or not?
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| Lillie Smith working as a dress maker. |
In the 1932 city directory for Miami, Ray’s occupation is listed as a
clerk for the law firm Jarrell, Brooks, and Rogers. But, in the 1940
census, Ray’s occupation is real estate. Below is a photo of Ray
working at his desk in his real estate office.
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| Ray Smith sitting at his desk in his real estate office. |
Ray died in March 1956 in Dade County, Florida. After the death of her husband, Lillie
moved to Cortez, Colorado and lived with her sister, Pearl. Lillie made a notation in her bible that stated she "arrived in Cortez, Colorado from Miami on June 27, 1956."
The photo
below is of Lillie, her mother Nancy, and her sister Pearl. Since Nancy
died in 1946, Lillie must have made the trip out to see her mother prior to
that time.
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| Pearl, Nancy, Lillie |
Lillie died on 20 July 1959 in Cortez. She is buried next to her brother,
Charles, in the Dove Creek Cemetery in Dove Creek, Colorado.
To view Lillie's Find-A-Grave memorial page: click here.
Since Lillie had no living descendants, Maymie ended up with the few photos that told Lillie's story. Eventually, I ended up with the photos and some memories, and knew they needed to be shared.
To view Lillie's Find-A-Grave memorial page: click here.
Since Lillie had no living descendants, Maymie ended up with the few photos that told Lillie's story. Eventually, I ended up with the photos and some memories, and knew they needed to be shared.
Labels:
Female Ancestors,
Hatfield Family
Wednesday, March 29, 2017
Searching for the ‘Hidden Half’ of our Family
Searching for the ‘Hidden Half’ of our Family
March is Women’s History Month. Women’s History Month is an observance and
celebration of the vital role of women in American history. As a family historian, I am glad we celebrate Women’s History. But in some ways, the phrase "Women’s
History" is an oxymoron. Throughout the
early part of America’s history, most women are not only difficult to find, their
history is almost non-existent.
Finding female ancestors is challenging at the best and almost
impossible at other times. Women changed their name when they married and took their husband’s name. So, unless a marriage record can be found, a woman's maiden name is often elusive. Laws, legal rights, and social mores further
complicates the finding of information about our female ancestors. Under common law, a husband controlled
everything – even land or money given to a woman by her father.
Prior to 1850, the United States census only listed the head
of household. So, if a woman was
married, only her husband would be listed by name, while the wife and other household residents were enumerated by tick-marks in columns.
Obituaries are wonderful sources of genealogical information, but women were often shortchanged in their own obituaries. Married women were quite frequently referred to by their husband’s name -- such as “Mrs. John Doe”. Sometimes their own given name is not even mentioned! Click here for an example of Pearl Hatfield Wilson's obituary. Note that Pearl and all of her daughters are referred to by their husband's name, not their own name.
In a husband’s will, women were often referred to as “my wife”, or in a probate she might simply be called the “Widow”. A father's will might also refer to his daughter by her husband's name - although she can be referred to by her name.
It was not until 1920 when the 19th Amendment was ratified that women were granted the right to vote. Prior to that time women did not even show up on voter lists or in poll books.
Obituaries are wonderful sources of genealogical information, but women were often shortchanged in their own obituaries. Married women were quite frequently referred to by their husband’s name -- such as “Mrs. John Doe”. Sometimes their own given name is not even mentioned! Click here for an example of Pearl Hatfield Wilson's obituary. Note that Pearl and all of her daughters are referred to by their husband's name, not their own name.
In a husband’s will, women were often referred to as “my wife”, or in a probate she might simply be called the “Widow”. A father's will might also refer to his daughter by her husband's name - although she can be referred to by her name.
It was not until 1920 when the 19th Amendment was ratified that women were granted the right to vote. Prior to that time women did not even show up on voter lists or in poll books.
DNA Testing to Help Find Maternal Ancestors
DNA Testing might be one of the best ways to find female ancestors.
Autosomal DNA will connect to all relatives within the last 5 generations.
Mitochondrial DNA will connect with maternal-line heritage. Mitochondrial DNA (mtDNA) is given to us by our mothers. Mothers pass mtDNA to all of their children - both male and female, so we all have mitochondrial DNA. But, only females can pass it down. That means our mtDNA came from our mother, who got it from her mother, who in turn got it from her mother, and so on, back to the beginning of time.
DNA testing is a great way to find missing women in your family tree. At the bottom of this post are several links to posts about finding women using DNA.
Remembering the Women in My Family
My goal is to remember the women in my family history and try to find their stories. Below are photos of the grandmothers in my family. They were the very heart π and soul of their families. They settled new lands, traveled in wagons, gave birth at home with only their husband or neighbor to help, cooked over campfires or wood stoves, washed clothes on a washboard, grew gardens, made bread, preserved their own food, sang lullabies to their babies, taught their children to believe in God, buried their children and husbands, had faith to carry on, and most of all they loved their families. We would not be here without their love, strength, and courage.
I have spent countless hours searching for the “hidden half”
of our family. Many of our female ancestors have stories written and/or photos posted on this blog. They are listed below by generation. Just click on their name to go to their story.
Grandmothers:
Great-Grandmothers:
2nd Great-Grandmothers:
Anna
Maria Heim Weiss
3rd and 4th Great-Grandmothers
Rebecca ‘Beckie’ Morgan MedlinSarah Gilbert Stewart
Using DNA to Help Find Women:
Labels:
Female Ancestors
Monday, March 27, 2017
"Wedded Bliss"
John Martin and Elizabeth Weiss
John S Martin and Elizabeth D Weiss were married on 21st day of November 1882 in Rural Township, Rock Island, Illinois. John was thirty-five years old and Elizabeth was twenty-five years old at the time of their marriage.
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| Marriage Record: John S Martin and Elizabeth Weiss |
Their marriage was reported in the Rock Island Argus newspaper with the title, "Wedded Bliss". The news article gave detailed list of the wedding presents, also, wedding guests and large circle of friends who gave the presents.
| Rock Island Argus, 23 Nov 1882 |
Related Posts:
Labels:
Martin Family,
Weiss Family
Thursday, March 23, 2017
Our 'First Families' in America
'First Families' are considered those who have high social status, or those of descent from the first settlers of a place. Our family fits into the second category: first settlers of a place. I have joined several 'First Families' groups/organizations representing states, regions, or counties within the United States. For the purposes of this blog post, our 'First Families' will be those ancestors who were our family's first immigrants to America.
I have written about a few of our immigrant families, but to tell the truth I don't know a large majority of them. Most of our ancestors are still stuck in South Carolina or Virginia in the early 1700's, Northwest Territory in the late 1700's, or east Tennessee in the early 1800's.π
This list of 'First Families' will hopefully grow as more of our immigrant ancestors are found.
The 'First Families' will be separated into my four grandparent lines. Both husband and wife will be listed, even if they immigrated together as a family. If a direct line ancestor came over as a child, that ancestor will be listed along with his/her parents.
If an ancestor's story is in this blog, their name will be the link.
The list will give name, country of origin, date of immigration (or about date of immigration), and first place of residence in America.
'First Families' of the Martin-Weiss family lines:
Johann Mathias Martin: Germany 1847, Wisconsin
Catherina Kastner: Germany 1849, Wisconsin
John Stephan Martin: Germany, Came as child with mother, 1849, Wisconsin
Philip Jacob Weiss: Germany 1848, died shortly after arriving
Maria Barbara Maendle: Germany 1848, Illinois
Johann Michael Weiss: Germany 1852, Illinois
Anna Maria Heim: Germany 1852, Illinois
'First Families' of the Wilson-Hatfield family lines:
James Cole: England, 1633, Massachusetts
Mary Tibbs: England, 1633, Massachusetts
Captain John Luther: England, abt 1634, Massachusetts
Elizabeth Turner: England, abt 1632, Massachusetts
Henry Lake: England, abt 1635, Massachusetts
Alice Lake: England, abt 1635, Massachusetts
Thomas Cornell: England, 1631, Massachusetts
Rebecca Briggs: England, 1631, Massachusetts
Richard Foxwell: England, 1631, Massachusetts
Edward Gray: England, 1643, Massachusetts
Dorothy Lettice: England, 1935, Massachusetts
Robert Abell: England, 1631, Massachusetts
Thomas Butts: England, 1660, Massachusetts
Anthony Chamness: England, 1724, Maryland
John Coddington: England, 1635, Massachusetts
Philip Hoggatt: England, abt 1700?, North Carolina
Henry Reynolds: England, abt 1670, New Jersey
Thomas Goble: England, abt 1630, Massachusetts
Alice Mousall: England, abt 1630, Massachusetts
Nathaniel Colburn: England, 1630, Massachusetts
Priscilla Clarke: England, Massachusetts
Stephen Cawood: England, 1670, Maryland
'First Families' of the Baldwin-Stewart family lines:
James Lindley: Ireland, 1713, Pennsylvania
Eleanore Parke: Ireland, 1713, Pennsylvania
Thomas Lindley: Ireland, Came as a child with parents 1713, Pennsylvania
Ruth Hadley: Ireland, Came as a child with parents 1715, Delaware/Pennsylvania
Simon Hadley: Ireland, 1715, Delaware/Pennsylvania
Ruth Keran Miller: Ireland, 1715, Delaware/Pennsylvania
Robert Parke: Ireland, 1713, Pennsylvania
Nicholas Pyle: England, 1683, Pennsylvania
Abigail Bushell: England, abt 1683, Pennsylvania
John Whitley: England, 1650, Virginia
'First Families' of the Leffel-Box family lines:
Balzar Leffel: Germany, 1750, Pennsylvania
Reinhold Abendschon: Germany, 1749, Pennsylvania
I have written about a few of our immigrant families, but to tell the truth I don't know a large majority of them. Most of our ancestors are still stuck in South Carolina or Virginia in the early 1700's, Northwest Territory in the late 1700's, or east Tennessee in the early 1800's.π
This list of 'First Families' will hopefully grow as more of our immigrant ancestors are found.
| Coming to America Harbor at Charles-Town, South Carolina, ca 1770 (loc.gov) |
If an ancestor's story is in this blog, their name will be the link.
The list will give name, country of origin, date of immigration (or about date of immigration), and first place of residence in America.
'First Families' of the Martin-Weiss family lines:
Johann Mathias Martin: Germany 1847, Wisconsin
Catherina Kastner: Germany 1849, Wisconsin
John Stephan Martin: Germany, Came as child with mother, 1849, Wisconsin
Philip Jacob Weiss: Germany 1848, died shortly after arriving
Maria Barbara Maendle: Germany 1848, Illinois
Johann Michael Weiss: Germany 1852, Illinois
Anna Maria Heim: Germany 1852, Illinois
'First Families' of the Wilson-Hatfield family lines:
James Cole: England, 1633, Massachusetts
Mary Tibbs: England, 1633, Massachusetts
Captain John Luther: England, abt 1634, Massachusetts
Elizabeth Turner: England, abt 1632, Massachusetts
Henry Lake: England, abt 1635, Massachusetts
Alice Lake: England, abt 1635, Massachusetts
Thomas Cornell: England, 1631, Massachusetts
Rebecca Briggs: England, 1631, Massachusetts
Richard Foxwell: England, 1631, Massachusetts
Edward Gray: England, 1643, Massachusetts
Dorothy Lettice: England, 1935, Massachusetts
Robert Abell: England, 1631, Massachusetts
Thomas Butts: England, 1660, Massachusetts
Anthony Chamness: England, 1724, Maryland
John Coddington: England, 1635, Massachusetts
Philip Hoggatt: England, abt 1700?, North Carolina
Henry Reynolds: England, abt 1670, New Jersey
Thomas Goble: England, abt 1630, Massachusetts
Alice Mousall: England, abt 1630, Massachusetts
Nathaniel Colburn: England, 1630, Massachusetts
Priscilla Clarke: England, Massachusetts
Stephen Cawood: England, 1670, Maryland
'First Families' of the Baldwin-Stewart family lines:
James Lindley: Ireland, 1713, Pennsylvania
Eleanore Parke: Ireland, 1713, Pennsylvania
Thomas Lindley: Ireland, Came as a child with parents 1713, Pennsylvania
Ruth Hadley: Ireland, Came as a child with parents 1715, Delaware/Pennsylvania
Simon Hadley: Ireland, 1715, Delaware/Pennsylvania
Ruth Keran Miller: Ireland, 1715, Delaware/Pennsylvania
Robert Parke: Ireland, 1713, Pennsylvania
Nicholas Pyle: England, 1683, Pennsylvania
Abigail Bushell: England, abt 1683, Pennsylvania
John Whitley: England, 1650, Virginia
'First Families' of the Leffel-Box family lines:
Balzar Leffel: Germany, 1750, Pennsylvania
Reinhold Abendschon: Germany, 1749, Pennsylvania
Other Family Lines:
John Alden, 1620 on Mayflower, Plymouth
Priscilla Mullins, 1620 on Mayflower, Plymouth
Labels:
Pilgrims
Our Weiss Immigrant Family
Our First American Ancestors in the Weiss Family
Philip Jacob Weiss & Maria Barbara Maendle
Philip Jacob Weiss was born 14 December 1794 in Uhingen, Wurttemberg, Germany. He was the third child of Michael Weiss and Catherine Traub Weiss. On 18 June 1822, he married Maria Barbara Maendle. Barbara, the daughter of Johann Michael Maendle and Susanna Kissling, was born 6 Apr 1802 in Uhingen, Wurttemberg, Germany.
Below is a copy of the Parish Family Record for the Philip Jacob Weiss family. It is from the Family Register of Uhingen, Vol II, page 426.
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| Family Register; Uhingen, Wuerttemberg, Germany |
Philip Jacob Weiss and his family emigrated to America from their home in Uhingen, Wurttemberg, Germany. The German people were tired of religious persecutions, wars, political oppression, and social unrest. And, the Weiss family was looking for a better way of life and a place to raise their children.
The Weiss family sailed from Havre, France on the ship “Seth Sprague”, which was captained by Alexander Wadsworth.
| Ship Seth Sprague, Captained by Alexander Wadsworth |
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| Passenger list of the ship Seth Sprague. Weiss family starts on line 23. |
After a three month voyage, the Weiss family arrived at New Orleans on June 17, 1848. Soon after, the family started their travel up the Mississippi River to St. Louis, Missouri. Jacob Weiss became ill and died of cholera in St Louis. He was buried in a cemetery that was later destroyed by fire so no trace of his grave has ever been found.
After the death of Philip Jacob Weiss, the family continued by boat up the Mississippi River to Rock Island, Illinois. There was a large German settlement in Coal Valley Township, Rock Island County and it was there that Maria Barbara Weiss and her family settled. It is possible that they located in that particular area because neighbors or friends in Germany may have located there before the arrival of the Weiss family. In a short time after their arrival Maria Barbara purchased a two hundred acre farm for which she paid $1,060.00.
It is not known where the Weiss family stayed when they arrived at their destination. After they settled in their new home, a log house, members of the family started getting the farm ready for crops. While their log house was not very large it always had room for others. Many people coming from Germany stayed at the Weiss home until they could locate a farm of their own. As in all German families everyone worked, including the younger children. They were sent to the store, a distance of about fourteen miles. They carried butter which was wrapped in a shawl and this was exchanged for necessary supplies.
Maria Barbara Weiss only lived ten years after coming to America, passing away in 1858. She was buried on the Weiss homestead, Rural Township, Rock Island County, Illinois. The small cemetery, located north of the house of John Michael Weiss, is now abandoned and supposedly has three tombstones, and several more unmarked graves. The cemetery is on private property and was posted with a "No Trespassing" sign in 1997. Alta made the following chart of the cemetery.
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| Pages from the Weiss Bible brought from Germany |
Much of the above story came from the book, Weiss Family by Alta Sherrard Waugh.
Sources:
Family Register:
Evangelische Kirche Uhingen (OA. GΓΆppingen), Parish Record; Uhingen, Donaukreis, Wuerttemberg, Germany; Uhingen Kirchenbuch, 1634-1900.
Ship Passenger List:
Ancestry.com. New Orleans Passenger Lists, 1820-1945 [database on-line]. Provo, UT, USA. Original data: New Orleans, Louisiana. Passenger Lists of Vessels Arriving at New Orleans, Louisiana, 1820-1902. Micropublication M259. RG036. Rolls # 1-93. National Archives, Washington, D.C.
Weiss Family Book:
Waugh, Alta S., Weiss Family 1600-1983. Washington, District of Columbia: American Memoirs Publishing, 1983. First edition in possession of blog author.
See post about the book, click here.
Weiss Family 1600-1983
Elizabeth Dorothea Weiss Martin
Our First Families in America
Labels:
Family Bible,
Female Ancestors,
Weiss Family
Wednesday, March 22, 2017
Weiss Family 1600-1983
While in college (1970), I took a beginning genealogy class taught by Instructor J. Grant Stevenson. Prior to that time I basically knew almost nothing about my family's history. Stevenson encouraged us to write to family members to gather information. My paternal grandfather (Elmer Martin) had died a year earlier. Since I had never met any family members from the Martin side of my family, I thought I would start with researching the Martin family. I corresponded with Elmer's brother, Wilber Martin, who lived in Milan, Rock Island, Illinois. He put me in touch with several other family members and eventually I came in contact with Alta Waugh.
Alta Sherrard Waugh (1904-2004) was the daughter of Frank Wesley Sherrard and Emma Weiss. Her mother, Emma Weiss, was a half-sister to my great-grandmother, Elizabeth Weiss Martin. At the time I was corresponding with Alta, she was in the process of gathering material to write a book on the Weiss family. She recognized the "budding genealogist" in me and encouraged my genealogical endeavors by sending me information, research, and photos of the Weiss family.
To view the digitized book on FamilySearch.org, click here.
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| Alta Sherrard |
Alta obtained the help of German genealogist, Frederick von Frank, to gather records from Germany for the Weiss and Maendle families. She also contacted descendants of the Weiss family from across the United States for much of her material.
Fortunately, I was able to obtain a copy of Alta Waugh's book , Weiss Family, 1600-1983. Below is copy of the title page, dedication page, and book cover. The book has been digitized and can be viewed by all. It is found on FamilySearch.org in the Family History Books.
Alta dedicated the book to her mother, Emma Weiss Sherrard.
To view the digitized book on FamilySearch.org, click here.
Other Blog Posts about the Weiss Family:
Labels:
Female Ancestors,
Weiss Family
Thursday, January 12, 2017
Box Family Mystery Solved
On Monday January 9th the Oklahoma State Department of Health launched it's index for vital records. The new site is called OK2Explore (ok2explore.health.ok.gov).
Grief died in 1874 in Cooke County, Texas. In the Cooke County, Texas 1880 census Grief's widow Roenna is listed as head of household and the following is a list of persons in her household:
F.C. Tucker and F.M. Tucker were first cousins to our Grandma Baldwin, but no one in the family that I contacted seemed to know about them or what happened to them.
| ok2explore.health.ok.gov |
I was up all Monday night searching the death index for death record information.:)
Box Family Mystery
One of the long time mysteries in my family tree was in the Grief Johnson Box family. Grief and his wife, Roenna Box, were our Grandma Mabel Baldwin's grandparents. They were the parents of 10 known children, although in the 1900 Census Roenna states that she gave birth to 13 children with only 4 still living in 1900. Those four children that Roenna referred to as still living in 1900 (Mary, Caldona, Matilda, & Tom) are the only children with information known about them and their posterity. This mystery concerns one of the other children not much is known about: Susan Ann Box Tucker and her children.Grief died in 1874 in Cooke County, Texas. In the Cooke County, Texas 1880 census Grief's widow Roenna is listed as head of household and the following is a list of persons in her household:
(Name, relationship to head of household, age, birthplace, Father's Birthplace, Mother's Birthplace)
Rowena Box, head of household, 57, Alabama, TN, TN
T.A. Box, son, 15, Texas, AL, AL
H.J. Box, son, 10, Texas, AL, AL
John Tucker, son-in-law, 47, Alabama, ?, ?
S.A. Tucker, daughter, 37, Mississippi, AL, AL
F.C. Tucker, granddaughter, 13, Texas, AL, MS
F.M. Tucker, granddaughter, 10, Texas, AL, MS
W.H. Rodgers, great-grandson, 2, Texas, ?, AR
Lewis McCoy, Laborer, 16, Texas, IL, MO
T.A. Box, son, 15, Texas, AL, AL
H.J. Box, son, 10, Texas, AL, AL
John Tucker, son-in-law, 47, Alabama, ?, ?
S.A. Tucker, daughter, 37, Mississippi, AL, AL
F.C. Tucker, granddaughter, 13, Texas, AL, MS
F.M. Tucker, granddaughter, 10, Texas, AL, MS
W.H. Rodgers, great-grandson, 2, Texas, ?, AR
Lewis McCoy, Laborer, 16, Texas, IL, MO
| 1880 U.S. Federal Census, Cooke County, Texas, Prec. 1, pg 209/34 B. |
Roenna's daughter (Grandma Baldwin's aunt) Susan Ann is listed by her initials "S.A. Tucker." Also listed is her husband John Tucker and their two daughters: F.C age 13 and F.M. age 10.
Susan Ann Box, age 16, married John Tucker, age 22, on 10 Feb 1860 in Bradley County, Arkansas. A copy of the marriage record is shown below.
Susan Ann Box, age 16, married John Tucker, age 22, on 10 Feb 1860 in Bradley County, Arkansas. A copy of the marriage record is shown below.
| Bradley County, Arkansas Marriage Records, page 123 Found on FamilySearch: Arkansas County Marriage Collection |
Susan died between the 1880 census, previously shown, and the 1900 census, when John was found as a widower living in Jack County, Texas. He was enumerated next to Susan's sister, Matilda Box Ewing. John was "head of household" and living by himself in the 1900 Census -- so what happened to the daughters, F.C and F.M that were listed in the 1800 census?
(I really-really dislike census takers who used initials and not the full name!!π π₯)
What were the full names for F.C. Tucker and F.M. Tucker❔❔
What happened to them after the 1880 Census - did they die or marry and move away or what❔
What happened to them after the 1880 Census - did they die or marry and move away or what❔
F.C. Tucker and F.M. Tucker were first cousins to our Grandma Baldwin, but no one in the family that I contacted seemed to know about them or what happened to them.
Leffel Family
On our Leffel side of the family, my great-grandmother, Caldona Jane Box, married Charles E Leffel. Charles E Leffel, had a brother, George Leffel whose first wife had died. He then married a widow by the name of Mrs. Florida Stanford on 16 Jun 1898 in Graham, Young County, Texas. I wanted to know Florida's maiden name since Stanford was her married name. After some research, I found a marriage record for Florida Tucker to Rufus Stanford on 29 Sep 1889 in Wichita, Texas. So, the maiden name for Florida Stanford who married George Leffel was Tucker.
On our Leffel side of the family, my great-grandmother, Caldona Jane Box, married Charles E Leffel. Charles E Leffel, had a brother, George Leffel whose first wife had died. He then married a widow by the name of Mrs. Florida Stanford on 16 Jun 1898 in Graham, Young County, Texas. I wanted to know Florida's maiden name since Stanford was her married name. After some research, I found a marriage record for Florida Tucker to Rufus Stanford on 29 Sep 1889 in Wichita, Texas. So, the maiden name for Florida Stanford who married George Leffel was Tucker.
I started wondering if the Florida Tucker Stanford Leffel could be our lost "F. M. Tucker" in the 1880 Census. They were both born in 1870 in Texas. And both were in the same proximity in Texas where family lived. Widower George Leffel would have known widow Florida Tucker Stanford through family relationships -- his brother Charles was married to Caldona Box who was Susan Box Tucker's sister - mother of our mystery F.M. Tucker. But, I could never find proof to support the theory.
DNA
Some months ago I noticed that one of my 23&me DNA matches had Florida Tucker Stanford in her direct line. The match descended from Florida and her first husband, Rufus Stanford, but did not have any information on Florida's parents or even know that Florida had married again. The only way this newly found match and I would share DNA is if Florida Tucker Stanford Leffel was (1) the "F M Tucker" in the 1880 census and (2) the daughter of Susan Box and John Tucker.
DNA
Some months ago I noticed that one of my 23&me DNA matches had Florida Tucker Stanford in her direct line. The match descended from Florida and her first husband, Rufus Stanford, but did not have any information on Florida's parents or even know that Florida had married again. The only way this newly found match and I would share DNA is if Florida Tucker Stanford Leffel was (1) the "F M Tucker" in the 1880 census and (2) the daughter of Susan Box and John Tucker.
Since the DNA match was on 23&me, I was able to see that she had a maternal haplogroup of U3a1. U3a1 is also my mitochondrial haplogroup: me>mom>Mable Leffel>Caldona Box Leffel>Roenna Johnson Box>Anna Hellums Johnson. So that meant that we most likely also shared our autosomal DNA on my maternal line. My 23andme.com match also shared matches with several other Box relatives and we all shared the DNA on some of the same segments. I beginning to feel confident that Florida was the mystery "F. M. Tucker"π.
But, I still wanted "proof" that it was Box DNA that we both inherited from our Box 2nd great-grandparents, Grief J Box and Roenna Johnson, through their daughters Susan and Caldona. That proof came in the form of a death certificate.
But, I still wanted "proof" that it was Box DNA that we both inherited from our Box 2nd great-grandparents, Grief J Box and Roenna Johnson, through their daughters Susan and Caldona. That proof came in the form of a death certificate.
Newly launched Oklahoma Death Index
In the past I have not had good experiences trying to obtain Death Certificates from Oklahoma. So, I was excited to at least see an index of deaths placed online for Oklahoma.
Florida Leffel was one person I wanted to find in the newly launched Oklahoma Death Index. And after finding her on OK2Explore, I immediately ordered her death certificate. It arrived within just a few days at our office. My son (who was at the office when it arrived) called, opened it and read the information from the certificate, all the while I was crossing my fingers and holding my breath...was she or was she not the daughter of John Tucker and Susan Box.
She was!!
In the past I have not had good experiences trying to obtain Death Certificates from Oklahoma. So, I was excited to at least see an index of deaths placed online for Oklahoma.
Florida Leffel was one person I wanted to find in the newly launched Oklahoma Death Index. And after finding her on OK2Explore, I immediately ordered her death certificate. It arrived within just a few days at our office. My son (who was at the office when it arrived) called, opened it and read the information from the certificate, all the while I was crossing my fingers and holding my breath...was she or was she not the daughter of John Tucker and Susan Box.
She was!!
The death certificate gave the names of Florida's parents and she was the daughter of John Tucker and Susan Box. My hunches were right and "Florida Melissa Tucker" Stanford Leffel was the mystery "F. M. Tucker" in the 1880 census.
Now, what happened to her sister who was listed in the 1880 census as F.C. Tucker??
Now, what happened to her sister who was listed in the 1880 census as F.C. Tucker??
Thank you Oklahoma
for providing us with an online death index!
for providing us with an online death index!
Death Certificate for Florida Melissa Leffel
Death Certificate Information:
Name: Florida Mellissa Leffel
Death Date: 3 Feb 1938
Death Place: Marlow, Stephens, Oklahoma
White, Female
Widowed Spouse name: George Leffel
Birth Date: 30 May 1870
Birth Place: Hunt County, Texas
Father: John Tucker, b. Texas
Mother: Susan Box, b. Tenn
Informant: Jimmie Leffel of Marlow, Oklahoma
Burial Place: Marlow
Burial Date: 4 Feb 1938
Obituary for Florida Melissa Leffel
SEE 2018 UPDATE: Using DNA to Find Florida's sister -- "F C Tucker"
Note:
Any DNA matches to Florida through children of her first husband, Rufus Stanford, will be from the Box family. Florida and her 2nd husband George Leffel had 5 children. All of their descendants will be double cousins to us (descendants of Mabel Leffel Baldwin), because we share common ancestors on the Leffel family and on the Box family. So any DNA from the children of Florida and her 2nd husband, George Leffel, could be Box DNA or Leffel DNA or a combination of both.π
In the Box family, Florida is the daughter of our 2nd great-aunt, Susan Ann Box Tucker. In the Leffel family, she was the wife of our 2nd great-uncle, George Leffel.
All descendants are encouraged to test their DNA.
Box Family Blog Posts:
Roenna Box Headstone
Caldona Jane Box and Charles Leffel
Caldona Jane Box Leffel
Mitochondrial DNA and Me - Haplogroups
Note:
Any DNA matches to Florida through children of her first husband, Rufus Stanford, will be from the Box family. Florida and her 2nd husband George Leffel had 5 children. All of their descendants will be double cousins to us (descendants of Mabel Leffel Baldwin), because we share common ancestors on the Leffel family and on the Box family. So any DNA from the children of Florida and her 2nd husband, George Leffel, could be Box DNA or Leffel DNA or a combination of both.π
In the Box family, Florida is the daughter of our 2nd great-aunt, Susan Ann Box Tucker. In the Leffel family, she was the wife of our 2nd great-uncle, George Leffel.
All descendants are encouraged to test their DNA.
Box Family Blog Posts:
Roenna Box Headstone
Caldona Jane Box and Charles Leffel
Caldona Jane Box Leffel
Mitochondrial DNA and Me - Haplogroups
Labels:
Box Family,
DNA,
Leffel Family,
Texas
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